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#14510

I'm helping a fellow ham set up FLDigi on his Windows 10 computer. I have it set up and working fine on my Windows 10 computer. On his computer, the PortAudio option is grayed out. He is using a SignaLink USB, and we tested it with the latest version of Audacity (2.1.3), and Audacity recorded sound from his radio fine.
FLDigi shows no audio devices, and the last line of the FLDIGI log says the following:
I: delayed_startup: PortAudio error: Internal PortAudio error

He has a few other ham apps that are working (WSJT-X, CW Get, and possibly others). I guess they access the sound devices differently.

His Windows 10 has all the latest updates applied.
Are any other apps known to interfere with PortAudio?

How do I help him get PortAudio working on his PC?

- Eric, AJ4LN

#14511

Install the latest audio device drivers for each audio device on the computer. Do NOT use the Microsoft default drivers. Download the drivers from the h/w manufacturer. Do this for all of the audio devices, not just the SignaLink-USB.
David, W1HKJ

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I'm helping a fellow ham set up FLDigi on his Windows 10 computer. I have it set up and working fine on my Windows 10 computer. On his computer, the PortAudio option is grayed out. He is using a SignaLink USB, and we tested it with the latest version of Audacity (2.1.3), and Audacity recorded sound from his radio fine.
FLDigi shows no audio devices, and the last line of the FLDIGI log says the following:
I: delayed_startup: PortAudio error: Internal PortAudio error
He has a few other ham apps that are working (WSJT-X, CW Get, and possibly others). I guess they access the sound devices differently.
His Windows 10 has all the latest updates applied.
Are any other apps known to interfere with PortAudio?
How do I help him get PortAudio working on his PC?
- Eric, AJ4LN

#14512

Thanks. Do you (or anyone else) know what manufacturer driver is used for the SignaLink?
- Eric, AJ4LN

#14513

The manufacturer is Tigertronics. I would check their page.

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On Sunday, July 30, 2017 4:21 PM, Eric Carlson <ECarlson@...> wrote:

Thanks. Do you (or anyone else) know what manufacturer driver is used for the SignaLink?
- Eric, AJ4LN

#14514

I had fldigi running for about a year and everything worked fine. Suddenly I discovered I could no longer decode Olivia or MT63. After weeks of experimenting I threw in the towel and reverted back to Windows 7. Everything works fine now!

Harry, N3FMO

ARES EC for Lancaster County, PA

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On July 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM Eric Carlson <ECarlson@...> wrote:
I'm helping a fellow ham set up FLDigi on his Windows 10 computer. I have it set up and working fine on my Windows 10 computer. On his computer, the PortAudio option is grayed out. He is using a SignaLink USB, and we tested it with the latest version of Audacity (2.1.3), and Audacity recorded sound from his radio fine.
FLDigi shows no audio devices, and the last line of the FLDIGI log says the following:
I: delayed_startup: PortAudio error: Internal PortAudio error
He has a few other ham apps that are working (WSJT-X, CW Get, and possibly others). I guess they access the sound devices differently.
His Windows 10 has all the latest updates applied.
Are any other apps known to interfere with PortAudio?
How do I help him get PortAudio working on his PC?
- Eric, AJ4LN

#14515

From the SignaLink page: 'drivers are always provided directly by the Operating System.'

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On Sunday, July 30, 2017 5:29 PM, N3FMO <harrybauder@...> wrote:

Harry, N3FMO

On July 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM Eric Carlson <ECarlson@...> wrote:
I'm helping a fellow ham set up FLDigi on his Windows 10 computer. I have it set up and working fine on my Windows 10 computer. On his computer, the PortAudio option is grayed out. He is using a SignaLink USB, and we tested it with the latest version of Audacity (2.1.3), and Audacity recorded sound from his radio fine.
FLDigi shows no audio devices, and the last line of the FLDIGI log says the following:
I: delayed_startup: PortAudio error: Internal PortAudio error
He has a few other ham apps that are working (WSJT-X, CW Get, and possibly others). I guess they access the sound devices differently.
His Windows 10 has all the latest updates applied.
Are any other apps known to interfere with PortAudio?
How do I help him get PortAudio working on his PC?
- Eric, AJ4LN

#14516

I have Windows 10 and running FLDIGI 4.0.8 and use it for MARS as well as HAM. No problems with it at all.

KF5MLP

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From: 'James Stafford AJ5BS' <aj5bs@...>

Sent: 7/30/2017 6:34:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nbems] PortAudio error Windows 10 FLDigi 4.0.8

From the SignaLink page: 'drivers are always provided directly by the Operating System.'

On Sunday, July 30, 2017 5:29 PM, N3FMO <harrybauder@...> wrote:

I had fldigi running for about a year and everything worked fine. Suddenly I discovered I could no longer decode Olivia or MT63. After weeks of experimenting I threw in the towel and reverted back to Windows 7. Everything works fine now!
Harry, N3FMO
On July 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM Eric Carlson <ECarlson@...> wrote:
I'm helping a fellow ham set up FLDigi on his Windows 10 computer. I have it set up and working fine on my Windows 10 computer. On his computer, the PortAudio option is grayed out. He is using a SignaLink USB, and we tested it with the latest version of Audacity (2.1.3), and Audacity recorded sound from his radio fine.
FLDigi shows no audio devices, and the last line of the FLDIGI log says the following:
I: delayed_startup: PortAudio error: Internal PortAudio error
He has a few other ham apps that are working (WSJT-X, CW Get, and possibly others). I guess they access the sound devices differently.
His Windows 10 has all the latest updates applied.
Are any other apps known to interfere with PortAudio?
How do I help him get PortAudio working on his PC?
- Eric, AJ4LN

#14517

Hi
I don't know for certain sure but I think if you download the manufacturers driver for the internal sound card
and install it you then see the system recognize the signal link codex sound card. If I remember correctly and of
the other disclaimers.
Marty kd8bj

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On 07/30/2017 06:34 PM, James Stafford AJ5BS wrote:

From the SignaLink page: 'drivers are always provided directly by the Operating System.'
James B Stafford
On Sunday, July 30, 2017 5:29 PM, N3FMO <harrybauder@comcast.net> wrote:
I had fldigi running for about a year and everything worked fine. Suddenly I discovered I could no longer decode Olivia or MT63. After weeks of experimenting I threw in the towel and reverted back to Windows 7. Everything works fine now!
Harry, N3FMO
ARES EC for Lancaster County, PA
On July 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM Eric Carlson <ECarlson@InvisibleRobot.com> wrote:
I'm helping a fellow ham set up FLDigi on his Windows 10 computer. I have it set up and working fine on my Windows 10 computer. On his computer, the PortAudio option is grayed out. He is using a SignaLink USB, and we tested it with the latest version of Audacity (2.1.3), and Audacity recorded sound from his radio fine.
FLDigi shows no audio devices, and the last line of the FLDIGI log says the following:
I: delayed_startup: PortAudio error: Internal PortAudio error
He has a few other ham apps that are working (WSJT-X, CW Get, and possibly others). I guess they access the sound devices differently.
His Windows 10 has all the latest updates applied.
Are any other apps known to interfere with PortAudio?
How do I help him get PortAudio working on his PC?
- Eric, AJ4LN

#14518

Dave, I hate to say anything, because I have been belittled here before speaking up. Seems strange that Audacity uses port audio without problems, but fldigi cannot. I took your advice, and it broke other things permanently. Yup fldigi works, but I had to throw other hardware away because no longer useful.
And the SignaLink drivers are fine. It will probably be the drivers for the original sound device in the computer that will be the problem.

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On 07/30/2017 03:23 PM, Dave wrote:

Install the latest audio device drivers for each audio device on the computer. Do NOT use the Microsoft default drivers. Download the drivers from the h/w manufacturer. Do this for all of the audio devices, not just the SignaLink-USB.
David, W1HKJ
On 07/30/2017 02:50 PM, Eric Carlson wrote:
I'm helping a fellow ham set up FLDigi on his Windows 10 computer. I have it set up and working fine on my Windows 10 computer. On his computer, the PortAudio option is grayed out. He is using a SignaLink USB, and we tested it with the latest version of Audacity (2.1.3), and Audacity recorded sound from his radio fine.
FLDigi shows no audio devices, and the last line of the FLDIGI log says the following:
I: delayed_startup: PortAudio error: Internal PortAudio error
He has a few other ham apps that are working (WSJT-X, CW Get, and possibly others). I guess they access the sound devices differently.
His Windows 10 has all the latest updates applied.
Are any other apps known to interfere with PortAudio?
How do I help him get PortAudio working on his PC?
- Eric, AJ4LN

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#14519

Audacity uses a modified version of Portaudio on Windows. Probably because the Audacity programmers also encountered similar issues with Windows 10. Can you tell me if your friends computer is a new Windows 10, or an update from Windows-7 or Windows -8? An update might have left original Win7/8 audio drivers in place. Those might not be fully Windows-10 compliant. Portaudio queries the OS for the list of audio devices and then tests them for sample rate availability. The last person I assisted with a Windows-10 audio driver problem was Manu, EA5AEL. He has a television card installed in his system, SVEON. The audio driver for that device causes a Portaudio initialization failure. Manu was able to resolve the failure by disabling the SVEON device in the Windows audio device manager.
You can run this program discover and report the specs on each audio device on a Windows computer,
pa_devs.zip
Download the file and unzip to the desktop. Run the file pa_devs and it will produce two output files, 'pa_debut.txt', 'results.txt'. Send the two files to me at my return address.
73, Dave, W1HKJ

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Dave, I hate to say anything, because I have been belittled here before speaking up. Seems strange that Audacity uses port audio without problems, but fldigi cannot. I took your advice, and it broke other things permanently. Yup fldigi works, but I had to throw other hardware away because no longer useful.
And the SignaLink drivers are fine. It will probably be the drivers for the original sound device in the computer that will be the problem.
On 07/30/2017 03:23 PM, Dave wrote:
Install the latest audio device drivers for each audio device on the computer. Do NOT use the Microsoft default drivers. Download the drivers from the h/w manufacturer. Do this for all of the audio devices, not just the SignaLink-USB.
David, W1HKJ
On 07/30/2017 02:50 PM, Eric Carlson wrote:
I'm helping a fellow ham set up FLDigi on his Windows 10 computer. I have it set up and working fine on my Windows 10 computer. On his computer, the PortAudio option is grayed out. He is using a SignaLink USB, and we tested it with the latest version of Audacity (2.1.3), and Audacity recorded sound from his radio fine.
FLDigi shows no audio devices, and the last line of the FLDIGI log says the following:
I: delayed_startup: PortAudio error: Internal PortAudio error
He has a few other ham apps that are working (WSJT-X, CW Get, and possibly others). I guess they access the sound devices differently.
His Windows 10 has all the latest updates applied.
Are any other apps known to interfere with PortAudio?
How do I help him get PortAudio working on his PC?
- Eric, AJ4LN

#14520

Thanks for the suggestions. He updated all his sound drivers, and several other drivers, but FLDigi still has no PortAudio devices on his computer. Are there any additional ways to get details on why FLDigi is unable to see/access PortAudio?
FLDigi works fine on my Windows 10 PC with my Kenwood TS-590S's USB audio.
- Eric, AJ4LN

#14521

Download this file pa_devs.zip
Unzip to the desktop and then execute the pa_devs program. The program probes the audio devices using Portaudio and creates two output files to the desktop, results.txt and pa_debug.txt. Send the two files to me at the bellsouth address.
David

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Thanks for the suggestions. He updated all his sound drivers, and several other drivers, but FLDigi still has no PortAudio devices on his computer. Are there any additional ways to get details on why FLDigi is unable to see/access PortAudio?
FLDigi works fine on my Windows 10 PC with my Kenwood TS-590S's USB audio.
- Eric, AJ4LN

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